Yeah, Because Kishimoto stating that Madara has no Weakness, and that he didn't know how to defeat him is headcanon. I Already explained that. This is a lie. 2) below God tier people are giving them a hard time. As you can see Ten tails Chakra, and chakra reserves are in the form of a planet. Occam's Razor buddy. really?, i thought the general consensus among the fandom was that sage of six paths naruto was naruto strongest version? This isn't true. He is still one of the most skilled and experienced ninjas in the world. so yes he was very weakened and still smacked momoshiki around. Momoshiki has eyes on his palms. Hagoromo and Hamura vs. Madara and Momoshiki | FanVerse I'll ask again did you read the Manga? Momoshiki has no jinchuriki and relies on chakra pills. all they could hope to do with Normal Sage mode is hurt them, they can't win with it otherwise they wouldn't have upgraded to better sage mode. LMFAO, how many time have I Owned you when you made that claim? Like I said he was able to absorb chakra and Jutsu with his Rinnegan, I can't say Madara has Access to the jutsu, but he can absorb the Jutsu and Chakra as well. But he does have more chakra than Sasuke. Explain with context. 100 ninja gave enough chakra to blow away the moon in the last, I am sure there was more than 100 ninja that got absorbed by the Tree. Context, which version of Kaguya, since they're two of them in the past. You are putting a bit to much stock into his words. Hokage Naruto is still stronger than that version. He is a looming threat who may return one day. you clearly ignored everything I just said. Now, If you are going to tell me you know more than Kishimoto about his own characters and verse than, you are the one using headcanon. Sasuke wasn't at 50%, and Sasuke wasn't stomping Momoshiki. His aesthetical approach has been influenced By Hitchcock and Kubrick, while his favorite film writer is Roger Ebert. Then he absorbed the God tree=Kaguya who had absorbed most of the people on the battle field chakra that BM Naruto gave to everyone after reigniting his faith after neji death. And no, Gaara can't beat Madara nor Momoshiki. Too bad the Kishimoto doesn't agree with you otherwise he would have let Naruto and Sasuke beat Madara, But he himself stated they couldn't win. by that same logic no one can use the games to say Naruto can create 5k Clones since that was only stated in the game no where else. This is only your SUBJECTIVE opinion on why Naruto's Shadow Clones aren't present and don't have a single shred of proof to assert this point. Then he absorbed the God tree=Kaguya who had absorbed most of the people Not true. ROFL Concession accepted dude Madara can absorb all Jutsu like it was stated he can. Occam's Razor. He is one of the most powerful ninjas, and someone Momoshiki does not want to face unprepared. Skip over what points? WHich version of Madara can beat Fused Momoshiki? I didn't lie, you're just twisting my words. Characters who don't wield Senjutsu have harmed Madara be it through physical attacks like Guy or some Six Paths jutsu like Sasuke. Sasuke doesn't doesn't matter if sasuke was at 100% back then he doesn't have planet level chakra and was no where near that level of chakra. Naruto's 10 characters that can beat Boruto's Daemon They had just nearly sealed him a moment after he said those words, so the threat was very real. Either way it goes buddy it doesn't matter, the portion of power Obito took from Madara, he gave to Kakashi and it was enough for him to Fuck up Kaguya. Momoshiki possessed tremendous strength, able to send Naruto crashing through a wall with a single blow. If post-chakra fruitthey're literally the same. . The posts I destroyed aren't my ideas. Winning Via touching your opponent is one of the easies roads to victory anyone could ask for. You have no statements or evidence to back up your claim, only a short fight that lasted 10 seconds and then headcanon. I replying saying to you that he wasn't getting massacred since they only had a short Fight when he then decided to go get his other Rinnegan. Madara stomps Via Limbo+Light Fang or Just hit him with I.T. Naruto: 7 Characters Kakashi Can Defeat (& 7 He Can't) - CBR Still, when we get into a more detailed analysis of their actions and dealings, it becomes clear how superior Madara is in every aspect. At the height of his power, Hashirama was even able to beat Madara. He got literaly battered by weakened Naruto and Sasuke in less than a minute, meanwhile Naruto and Sasuke could not even put Madara down until the end. Even weakened he is still miles ahead of Boruto. that why we use evidence and statements since they are key to determining where people rank at. There were 10s of thousands of shinobi present. yes it is the case. To your post, Naruto barely did any damage to Madara, he took that attack with 0 damage. Naruto survived the limbo's because he was using an Extremely advanced Sage mode from the Sage of Six paths; normal Sage mode Gives you Sharringan perception a massive buff to his reaction time. Momoshiki hasnt even shown anything on the level of juubito, let alone kaguya. that isn't PIS. Why? People try to use the Novels to try and say Momoshiki is solar system level because he absorbed a planet, which is false; By that same logic it would mean base Madara is planet+ level since he absorbed the Juubi which was stated twice to have planet level chakra, and chakra reserves as well as Absorbed Kaguya. Momoshiki can't take in attacks he can't see. Naruto's first appearance in SPSM had Madara trying to run away from him and get hit with a Rasenshuriken. Madara has f. The God tree did Absorb a lot of Shinobi's go back and watch the scenes where it was taking almost everyone chakra until Naruto teleported rest of the people out. Sorry Madara doesn't have 70+ years of combat experience. Madara Uchiha is enormously skilled and his mastery of the different Djutsu techniques puts him a level above Momoshiki, even though Momoshiki is a truly powerful Djutsu user. He wasn't inferior, because Naruto needed Help to fight him. So again, Madara in character hits Momoshiki with I.T=GG Momoshiki. Regardless of that the God Tree is Kaguya. kaguya couldn't use Portal Creation, or Environment change Or Expansive Truth Seek Ball to nuke Dimensions.Kaguya in the Past couldn't do chakra Taxing abilities like in the 4th Ninja war. You seriously have no common sense. This is the only category where we couldnt really decide on the winner, since it is extremely difficult to measure the exact chakra levels of characters from Naruto and Boruto. Momoshiki should think twice before facing this intimidating shinobi. Madara can still hurt Momoshiki if he manages to avoid his right palm (like Sasuke's chidori), but Momoshiki can't damage him with Ninjutsu anyway he hits. Hell in every version of this fight, when Naruto and Sasuke weren't helping each other they were losing. everyone else didn't lose many people at all. Madara's Limbo clones beat Naruto's Shadow clones in 10 seconds. He wanted to create a world where his siblings would live happily, but this goal led him down a dark path of betrayal and hatred. Madara and his 4 Limbo Clones whoop on Momoshiki in Taijutsu. I haven't disagreed lol, in fact I've been pushing this idea since this started. You've proven this beyond a doubt. He has a Ph.D. and speaks five languages. People try to use the Novels to try and say Momoshiki is solar system level because he absorbed a planet, which is false; By that same logic it would mean base Madara is planet+ level since he. There isn't a single person in this entire series that can beat her 1v1. Does this not contradict a previous point you made lol? as I said You need Senjutsu to by Pass those Truth Seeking orbs, without it Madara can just negate every Jutsu Attack Momoshiki makes. Also, it was stated that sasuke Traveling dimensions takes away 50-60% of his chakra. Last edited: Jul 26, 2021. Madara has double rinnegan and rinnesharingan>3 rinnegan and 2 byakguan. Please logout and login again. I'm not going to get into any Momoshiki scaling since it's painfully obvious that he isn't close to Kaguya's level. #14. It's clear as day that physicals go solely to Momoshiki here. The clones are literally created to indistinguishable from the original in all aspects. Answer (1 of 21): Yes. Sure Isshiki is Strong and all, But that's all he is. ago Jigen, Code, momoshiki, Naruto, Sasuke. Occam's Razor. 5 people who can beat Madara Vote 9 Related Topics Naruto Fantasy anime Adventure anime Action anime Anime 9 comments Best Add a Comment sheehdndnd 13 min. I don't think anyone debating for Momo in this thread has given us an idea on how Momoshiki can bypass limbo or how he'll deal with Madara's immortality. the point is there are to many things pointing against That claim buddy, Momoshiki couldn't see Boruto's Vanishing Rasengan when Sasuke could. Later on, the guy opted to run away from Naruto and Sasuke after nearly being sealed. This isn't true, but just your opinion. that is irrelevant when my point is Madara has more knowledge then they do, as well as far more combat experience. Momoshiki's absorption is basically Madara's Preta Path. Fused Momoshiki vs Three Eyed Juubidara | FanVerse This is a telltale sign you didn't get what I said. that was just first Form Ten tails. Momoshiki has a Rinneganso he can see Limbo. But his abilities and powers were incredible ever since he was young. His reserves were so immense, that he could fight non-stop for a full twenty-four hours, even this lasted until his old age, where after awakening the Rinnegan, he had enough Chakra to summon Gedo Mazo from the Moon after breaking the seal that contained it. With Normal Sage mode, Naruto was able to perceive and feel how powerful the ten tails Was. LMFAO, claiming Momoshiki doesn't use his Rinnegan for seeing as I just pointed out to you, he uses them for Absorbing jutsu or chakra. had He fought Kaguya currenly, Momoshiki would have gotten Wrecked and one shotted by T.I. Reminder he was running away from them to avoid being massacred all because he didn't have his other eye. they still couldn't defeat him. This is null and void. His katon techniques have incredible range and power, Itachis supreme fireballs had medium-range and respectable power but Madaras are on a whole other level. So Ghost, and Being invisible go hand and hand. The brief scuffle we saw gave no indication of who was gaining or losing ground. Juubidara vs fused momoshiki ? : r/Naruto - Reddit Is that it, this itself isn't enough to suggest anything as we don't know how many trips Sasuke's made here. in the past the Tailed beast from the ten tails was barely just born. The other is Boruto winning a Rasengan clash against him, which is just poor writing. Momoshiki has Yin-Yang release as wellso? A Limbo clone going all out would solo Momo. Maddy godstomps. You must have didn't read the part where At the end of the Fight Madara's Limbo clones beat Naruto's Shadow clones. This is because he was one of Indra tsutsukis Transmigrants, inheriting the powerful Chakra from him. The first Hokage and the first reincarnation of Ashura, Hashirama was a legend amongst ninjas. The fact that you out right stated that Momoshiki can't see invisible Jutsu already debunks your post, that he could see Limbo. Concession accepted. On his own Momoshiki managed to beat several Kage level shinobi. I was just speaking in general that Madara has the Advantage and overall more Chakra than Adult Sasuke. Naruto and Sasuke only had one Job, they couldn't even do that. Why can't Momoshiki? She would then give birth to Hagoromo and Haruma. Who Can Beat Isshiki? - On Secret Hunt Sure he was, and Momoshiki didn't get smacked by Susanoo fused Kurama with one move LMFAO. The fact that Both of them where fighting him at the same time implies and shows that he was far superior to them. Evidence via statements from the Author or statements from Sasuke? Normal Sage mode gives a massive buff to all of your sense, and Reaction speed; Kurama Sage Mode is even better than normal sage mode. The idea that eyes can't see is not a smart one. Madara found him and natured him back to health in order to use him as a tool in his plans. Could Madara Uchiha beat Momoshiki? - Quora This is no brainer. and lets face it, they had nothing to beat him with beside (sealing). Madara has yin/yang release Momoshiki has only yin release. On top of that Momoshiki using Chakra pills to do all this. LMFAO, stop it kid and I already know that hence why Kaguya lost twice even those she was far stronger than her sons at that point in time. However, Black Zetsu warped these compliments into a nasty and twisted sense of superiority. Rinne-sharingan + Ten-tails Madara 6.None Explain. Momoshiki was more powerful than 50% Naruto and Sasuke individually. The only difference is the special ability the Rinnegan possess, which varies from user to user anyway. whatever help you sleep at night kid, we both know what you were going to say and what you meant. First off, Only Madara's Limbo clones are stated to be around The originals level of power, Naruto's shadow Clones are not. Madara has imense healing power Momoshiki does not. He became the Jinchuriki of the Ten-Tails and used this power to create an Infinite Mangekyou Sharingan that would leave the world inside a dream. So, If 50% Sasuke was able to do that then 100% Sasuke can solo Momoshiki and take him out just fine as long as he doesn't spam any jutsu. If you want to think that then like you said it your opinion, but don't claim it as facts. If Madara is able to block attacks from SPSM Naruto then Normal Sage mode isn't going to be useful. again, this was stated prior to the Gaiden Novels, Unless you want to explain how Rinnegan Sasuke was getting owned by Shin Uchiha who sakura was able to one punch afterwards? what matters is how much fighting experience you have and Like I said MAdara has far more than they do. In your previous post, you said Naruto and Sasuke was at least than 50% against Madara, basically trying to hang on to the notion that Naruto and sasuke was exhausted from fighting the war before fighting Madara. He is currently focusing on anime, his childhood love, with special attention given to Bleach, One Piece, Pokemon, Jujutsu Kaisen, and Demon Slayer. then after she ate the Fruit Kaguya gained another power up which she split her powers with her two sons. Now, both Momoshiki and Madara seem to be strong and have caused trouble for the protagonists in Naruto and Boruto. Madara was inactive (combat-wise) after his battle with Hashirama at the VoTE.and just like the size of chakra reserves, having more knowledge of more jutsu and experience doesn't prove anything. This only requires that he sees the change in chakra nature, not the invisible jutsu itself. The shinju didn't absorb the jutsu from most of the ninja present. At the cost of the large amount of chakra gained from eating the pills, Momoshiki was able to use space-time ninjutsu, which allowed him and Kinshiki to travel between dimensions. No, Momoshiki can't see with those Rinnegan on his hands, Occam's Razor says he only used them to absorbed Jutsu nothing more. PIS was Boruto's Vanishing Resengan knocking out Momoshiki, and freeing the Kages but him being Killed by Boruto and Naruto's power combined wasn't PIS. His new eyes were so powerful that they allowed him to fight many duels against Hashirama Senju, which forged his legend. Kaguya, Hagoromo, Madara vs Team Isshiki - Battles - Comic Vine Momoshiki can use Lava Golem during the fight Both in character He later lost the Bijuu and the power that came with it, but as a Jinchuriki, Momoshiki would find it hard to win against Obito. Madara pushed his Sharingan to a high level while being very young which allowed him to lead the Uchiha clan with his younger brother. Quote me. Can Momoshiki absorb wood style? First off, Only Madara's Limbo clones are stated to be around The originals level of power, Naruto's shadow Clones are not. "Cuz Gaara could beat 1v1 Momoshiki (base)." Source needed for this statement. Like the other tsutsuki, Momoshiki was gifted with extremely powerful chakra. Only that they had the best chance of defeating him than anyone else. what you are doing here. again, still far more powerful than what Kaguya had in the past with only 3 people who had chakra. Hold on a second, Momoshiki was running from Darui, and was on the ropes until Kinishiki came along. TBH I think the Ten tails currently was more powerful than the one in the past because all the tailed beast back then where young and inexperience, but that is a debate for another day. That doesn't even make sense. Disclaimer: All external media in this article are the property of their respective owners, and Sportskeeda claims no ownership of the same. Madara beats the crap out of momoshiki, momo was vaped by a friggin COR while madara took a Rikudou senjutsu powered Chou Odaama Rasenshuriken in a weakened state and all the while not immortal with nothing but a lil gash in his belly. About you mentioning the characters conditions of them being bloodlust, again that doesn't matter because Madara for the most part is going to hit Momoshiki with I.T since that was the first thing he went to do once he got his other eye back. you clearly ignored everything I just said. Momoshiki wielded a pair of Rinnegans located in the palms of his hands, which he could use to absorb ninjutsu with the right one and use mentioned techniques with the left one. GG, If SPSM could barely do anything to Madara, then normal sage mode is definitely not going to be enough. where you not trying to make that same case for Adult Naruto and Sasuke against War arc Versions? While Naruto was able to keep up with and even overwhelm Momoshiki in his Six Paths Sage Mode, the same wasn't possible with Isshiki. Momoshiki will have a hard time against his Perfect Susanoo. The two characters we are going to compare today are Momoshiki from Boruto and Madara Uchiha from Naruto to determine which antagonist from Masashi Kishimotos franchise is the stronger one. It just mean they have crap Durability really, this was a response to your clones being able to be dispelled by strong enough attack. If Madara wanted to end Gai he could have easily done so with 1 Limbo clone. It's important to know that Naruto's base durability was also amped by a lot after he got six paths so it's entirely possible that if Momoshiki kicked someone like Nagato or Itachi like that, their heads might just explode like a watermelon. which is why I call it simply PIS. He was the one who explained it to Naruto what he does and what not. As I pointed out you can make the claim of Momoshiki being more powerful than Kaguya in the past when there were only 3 people alive with chakra. So it comes down to Taijutsu, which we have no way of knowing who is better. for the record, Both Naruto and Sasuke are dead now, by people who are not even god tier. The fact he can't since not every jutsu can be absorbed. His wood release Jutsu is also incredibly powerful. Madara has both Yin/ and Yang, he could infuse those together and turn Momoshiki into dust. He's someone comparable to Kaguya Otsutsuki herself, whose power was said to be several times greater than Madara's. Therefore, Momoshiki Otsutsuki should easily be strong enough to . Sep 16, 2017 #10 Turrin said: Adult-Naruto and Sasuke needed additional help from Boruto to defeat Momoshiki, while Teen-Naruto and Sasuke were handling Madara by themselves. Momoshiki lost because they stopped him from Absorbing Chakra in the end, that is not the same as the Creator deus ex machina in the form of Zetus who is practically weaker than every mid tier on the field with a name. LMFAO. Momoshiki can't see invisible attacks. Naruto: 7 Characters Stronger Than Momoshiki Otsutsuki (& 7 Weaker) - CBR Lasting 10 seconds in your eyes counts for doing "good" and fought "evenly" then okayI guess, but that doesn't mean they are even ROFL. Jiraiya and Tsunade are great shinobis in their own right, but even if they teamed up against Isshiki, they don't stand a chance. Winning Via touching your opponent is one of the easies roads to victory anyone could ask for. It was stated by Kakashi that the power Naruto gave out to everyone was 3x war arc Kakashi's chakra. Also with his right Rinnegan, he could turn a target into pills, which when ingested, would grant him youth and their chakra, cause his muscle tissue to grow, and could transform his entire body in the event he consumed Kinshikis chakra. Sportskeeda Anime is now on Twitter! 10) Madara has larger chakra pool and Reserves. Her strength was explicitly stated to be far greater than Madara Uchiha's. Can ishiki beat Momoshiki? concession accepted. Im surprised to see people claiming that he wins. So he would have to fight 5 Madaras at the same time 4 of which he cant even target. Momoshiki's absorption is basically Madara's Preta Path, not to forget that Madara while juubi absorbed is highly Resistance to Ninjutsu physically. Madara can still hurt Momoshiki if he manages to avoid his right palm (like Sasuke's chidori), but Momoshiki can't damage him with Ninjutsu anyway he hits. ROFL this never get's old. It is backed up within the whole series and established that Naruto when he makes shadow clones Divides his power among how many clones he has. Alsoyou are aware that War Arc versions of Six Paths Naruto and Sasuke were already tired when those powerups came aboutright? 1 2 Next TauanVictor 4,637 2,464 Mar 18, 2021 #1 Madara Uchiha VS Momoshiki tsutsuki Fight Location: Naruto and Sasuke VS Momoshiki Starting Distance: 500 Meters Madara Jbi Jinchriki Dual Rinnegan + Rinnesharingan and Momoshiki with Kinshiki Absorbed will be used. He appeared in the series along with Kinshiki to hunt down Naruto Uzumaki. Because they were not aiming to defeat him, they goal was to touch him with the seals which they couldn't, and Kishimoto stated they have no way of defeating Madara. Which leads to the same question againhow does this prove they're weaker than Madara? OR maybe you should start reading what you type before posting it. Except that it can absorb a lot more than chakra and most jutsuand that Momoshiki himself has access to this. He hasn't fought anyone with good abilities. First of all, this would only go for Naruto. He first awakened there during an altercation between his family and that of Hashirama Senju. I'm not making a comparison to Madara's case. so, weaker Ten tails then the current one. I'm don't know what you're talking about, you need to quote me instead of going on tangents and paragraphs about something. Until then, this is nothing but your headcanon. Arthur S. Poe is a writer based in Europe. ROFL. let not Forget Delta who was stomping Naruto as well. In the Boruto novel, Momoshiki was able to absorb Wood Release, which gave him access to this power by making it several times stronger. Obito was able to obtain the power of the Ten-Tails for a short time, becoming one of the most formidable opponents Naruto and his friends had ever faced. Never said War arc was naruto's prime, I just said he isn't in his prime anymore since he hasn't even been training at all and working behind a deck the whole time, before that he was studying for hokage. How many were killed by the Shinjuu's roots? Disclaimer: This list is based on the writers opinion and contains spoilers from Naruto and Boruto. Which is relevant why? OT. 2) Madara is a far better fighter than Momoshiki. Momoshiki has no way of seeing limbo, And it stated by Kishimoto to have to same abilities as Madara. his Byokugan was his eyes he was using and like I said he can't see something that is not even in this reality when he couldn't even see Boruto's Vanishing Attack, all we know is that is vanishes before it hit and changes it's chakra nature. where you not trying to make that same case for Adult Naruto and Sasuke against War arc Versions? Big deal. Momoshiki's eyes didn't unlock Rinnegan. TheNarutoExpress 1 hr. There are several instances of individuals who don't possess nearly as much chakra as their opponent and still win. However, I can only do so much, as you are the one who ends up skipping over my responses as you don't quote them, and end up missing bit of information I reply to. LMFAO, Obito after he was in the cave was inactive, but he still got stronger and was training was he not? Can't be defended. While I don't deny it, he also had an entire monologue where he admits that Naruto and Sasuke are legitimate threats to him and that he needs to acquire his other eye as soon as possible. I literally had to bold letters for you because I swear you act like you have hard time read or something, because you skip over points like no ones business. Momo is overrated. This is the first category where Madaras technical skills come to the forefront. Why so eager to pin something on me? and since he has his Truth Seek Orbs any dangerous moves Madara can shield himself from like I said Madara knows I.T so if he since the battle is pointless he is going to go for the for sure Victory. Limbo is an invisible Jutsu from another Dimension. MAdara was still very much active since left the cave after he gained Rinnegan and placed his eyes into Nagato who lived in the rain villain. Sasuke doesn't doesn't matter if sasuke was at 100% back then he doesn't have planet level chakra and was no where near that level of chakra. yet you still try to hold on to this fantasy that Naruto or Sasuke can beat Madara when: 1) they no longer have the seals that Hagaromo gave them to deal with Madara. The rest of your comments or not really that important, but I'll put down something for them. yes we do know, Because prior to fighting Momoshiki, there was an arc were sasuke and Naruto fought Shin Uchiha. The only way you can gather that Sasuke can't hurt Limbo is if you ignore that it's Six Paths Chakra in general that would be effective on the clonesnot to mention that the previous point didn't even address Limbo to begin with. No, I only said the Adult versions would bully the War-arc versions. None of this counters or even addresses the point I made here. The last two would bully War-Arc Naruto. And the final category also goes to Madara, simply because he is one of the best shinobi to ever have existed. On top of that, Hagoromo was the Juubi jinchuriki, with a complete Juubi, while Madara's Juubi lacked still half of the Kyuubi chakra. Experience only helps, it doesn't say for sure who wins or loses. Isshiki vs Madara - Battles - Comic Vine He was one of the two only two Uchiha to hold the power of the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan and the Rinnegan. Madara is juubi jinchuriki and has shit ton of chakras. 3 eyed Juubidara, seriously? And no, Gaara can't beat Madara nor Momoshiki. prior to this, Madara absorbed Jutus from Sage Mode Naruto as well.
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